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    Default grr... Venting mostly, couple tech questions.

    So, here I am, it's 5 o'clock, and I'm heading down Folsom-Auburn into folsom to go towards work (I go through folsom, hit white rock into eldorado hills, miss most of the hywy 50 parking lot) I turn onto Folsom from Eureeka, and give the gas a quick blip to get up to speed... no problem, then about a mile down the road I hear a nice loud clunk and my car starts tacking... I let off the gas, and it's coasting okay, and idling fine, but the speed of the car, and the rpms of the motor seem oddly out of sync... hmm.... so I pull it over, and check the tranny fluid (it's an auto) to see if it's low... nope... seems just fine... so I turn off the car to look things over... and when I go to start it back up I discover that the starter's cranking, the flexplate is spinning... but the motor's not turning.... soo... if you happen to see the white car that looks like a starion over on the side of the road on folsom, that'd be mine... hopefully I'll be able to go pick it up in the morning and take it up the hill to the 'rents house to pull the motor and trans and see why this flexplate broke... when I got it the flexplate was broke, but since there were no keys or front seats when I got it ($200 for a turbo car that just needs seats and keys seemed like a good deal...) I was unaware of the broken flexplate til I got it keyed.... BAH.... just venting mostly... but I don't suppose anybody knows what would cause this other than the usual suspects (rockford turns, neutral dumps, reverse-drive dumps....as I am the only one that's driven it since the new plate and I've done none of the above)

    I haven't even really driven this car hard yet, as it is still in the "working the bugs out" stage... also, this flexplate has 510 miles on it according to my tripometer which was reset when I dropped the tranny back in... so there's NO reason it should have broke (and it was a brand new from Napa part)
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    . so there's NO reason it should have broke (and it was a brand new from Napa part)


    there you go!!!

    Napa aftermarket parts are garbage,

    those things new from Mitsu are around $90

    we actually sell a ton of them.

    Check to see that your balance shaft chain is not broken and that your front crank pulley is not damaged, crankshaft harmonics are what is causing those to break, and if at one time someone replaced the engine with one from a 5 speed car there is a bushing in the but of the crank that supports the torque converter, and if that is not there you will keep eating those flexplates.
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    I had an irradic RPM once and it turned out to be a Crank Sensor going bad. Rpms were inconsistent, would jump, sometimes would just go to 0 while the mph gauge was reading normal. If the power transistor is not grounded or is lose, your Rpm's will do this also. When the crank sensor finally went bad, the car wouldn't start. Same scenario if your power transistor goes bad. I was lucky my crank sensor went out due to oil. If it turns out to be nothing you suspect, I would suggest maybe inspecting/replace your cam and crank sensor. Let us know how it goes.

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    Wait, you have a 2g Ecl or a Starion????
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    Doh, I wasn't very clear in that first post.... I have a 2G... but that's not what's broke... this is my '90 Daytona, it looks like a starion, but is FWD... Chrysler 2.5 Turbo... I got the car for $200 and it didn't have keys or front seats, so I got a locksmith to make up some new keys to discover that the flexplate was shredded (still have it sitting in the back of the car) so I went and got one from napa... it was like $65, so it wasn't like a cheap $20 piece of metal, but yea, and I put it in, car started right up, and idled okay... I adjusted the timing and zip tied a couple of vac lines (they really need to be replaced, but I was just trying to make it road worthy) in place so they wouldn't pop off under boost, and put a set of seats in it... then it needed front struts, so it sat... finally got struts on it, and started driving it, and now it's seen 500 or so miles and I've lost the flexplate...

    The reason I say flexplate is because it idled fine, I could goose the throttle, it ran great, like it was in neutral, so I checked the tranny fluid, and then turned the car off, when I went to start it, I could hear the flexplate spinning on the starter, but the motor wasn't turning over... and it seems to me there's something wrong with the car in general, got it with a sheared flexplate, and now it's done it again, so I need to pull the motor and see what's up instead of just putting a flexplate in it and trying to band-aid it together again.

    I have my suspicions to things that may have caused this - the motor mount on the passenger side is shot, I found a bellhousing bolt had backed itself out (a different one than last time) and there's some other things that I need to check...

    Mostly just needed to vent.... I was pissed cause it decided to break on my way to work, I had to work all night, then I had to figure out how to get it home in the morning after I got off work... ended up just caling my mom, she called AAA and picked it up...

    Sooo.... I'll probably be pulling the motor and trans, so I can check out all the things in question at my liesure from somewhere other than under the car... so frustrating, cause I wanted to take this to the 2wd dyno day and get a baseline... *shrugs* Oh well.
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